Anglais : l'implicite d'une chanson

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Anglais : l'implicite d'une chanson

par Escroc » 27 Mar 2008, 19:33

Bonsoir à tous !

Pourriez vous s'il vous plaît m'indiquer la morale, l'implicite de la chanson de Bob Dylan "Who killed Davey Moore ?" Je dois faire un essais dessus !!

merci d'avance
“La sévérité prévient plus de fautes qu'elle n'en réprime” N.Bonaparte



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par _-Gaara-_ » 27 Mar 2008, 22:14

Salut,

pas mal la chanson !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxR2totmvoM&feature=related

j'ai trouvé des trucs supers !

It was March of 1963 in a triple title night at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles. Davey Moore had succesfully defended his Featherweight title 5 times and put it on the line against the Cuban Sugar Ramos. Ramos knocked the 5'2" Moore down into the ropes in the tenth round but Moore who was nicknamed The Little Giant popped up and finished the fight. He lost in the scorecards however and the title was transferred to Ramos. Moore walked back to the locker room and in a post-fight interview stated he couldn't wait to fight Ramos again to get his title back. Shortly after the reporters left Moore complained of headaches and fell unconscious. He died of inoperable brain damage in a local hospital where his wife had been flown to meet him. Geraldine Moore, on being informed of her husband's death said "It was God's will" and fainted.

Dylan wrote this in '63 back when he was doing a lot of social protest songs. This one however is different. I'll warn you, don't read too much into it as far as Dylan's perspective is concerned. I don't think Dylan believes boxing is all that bad. Dylan's rival Phil Ochs had written a song called Davey Moore and it seems as though Dylan wrote his version to show his superiority as a songwriter. It does man's and society's hypocrisy - and in that aspect very Dylanesque, yet if you think Dylan wrote this song to lead a flowers and bandanas revolution against boxing you might as well puke up the mushrooms.

An additional irony was added to Dylan's song when doctors concluded the autopsy of Davey Moore. Apparently when Moore had fallen in the tenth round his head had hit the ropes in what doctors called a "thousand to one" accident. The bottom rope had caused the brain to swell in the back which eventually proved fatal. So who killed Davey Moore? The inanimate and unfeeling ropes of the ring. The ropes that seperate the fighter from the crowd. Created by folks in some warehouse of a sports manufacturing company either to help hold men up or be pinned against.


For sure, it is about the death of Davey Moore, but also the same mentality that Dylan is criticizing is behind many of our social ills. The tendency to place blame and point fingers instead of taking ownership for our role in all of these things. Environmental issues are an easy fit. We all criticize the policy makers and the corporations, that are the direct cause, but really we all contribute to these ills in our own individual lifestyles. We do not insist that the corporations we work for operate in an environmentally friendly manner. We take the paycheck and go home and throw our bottles in the recycler like that's all we can do. We do not employ the age-old peaceful protest tactics of walk outs, or boycotts nearly frequently enough. We make signs and hold them up at protest rallies, but then do nothing when our jobs are on the line. Not everyone, but many. Not always, but often. Take ownership and affect change from the ground up.



Source : http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858562268

Tu as de quoi faire un super essai avec çà !! dommage que je ne l'ai pas eu moi, à la place j'ai un DM barbant.... )=

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par Escroc » 28 Mar 2008, 18:08

Tout simplement génial !!!!! Je te remercie pour ton aide
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par _-Gaara-_ » 28 Mar 2008, 18:18

Escroc a écrit:Tout simplement génial !!!!! Je te remercie pour ton aide



T'inquiètes =)

Je pense qu'il serait sympa si tu parles de "segregation in the United states" d'exemples de "Lynchings" qui se sont produits et d'affaires similaires =)


Bon courage !

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par fati » 29 Mar 2008, 00:28

Garaa et la segregation in the united states ! :zen:

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par _-Gaara-_ » 29 Mar 2008, 12:54

fati a écrit:Garaa et la segregation in the united states ! :zen:


lol oui je m'y connais assez bien lol

j'ai fait un exposé oral de 1 heure sur çà donc forcément.. =)

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par Heiko » 07 Avr 2008, 12:28

Moi, je dis: Vive Bob Dylan!

 

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