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[noue]

Bonjour;

Je suis actuellement en PAES ( 1ère année de méd) à Toulouse et , étant doublante je dois penser à une éventuelle réorientation si je n'ai pas le concours. Ayant toujours aimé les maths , je pense aller en fac pour devenir prof de maths. Ma question est donc la suivante :
Quels sont les avantages et les inconvénients du metier de prof ? Comment se déroulent les études ?

Merci d'avance.

[Joker62]

Hello

Je ne pense pas qu'on puisse faire un listing des avantages et inconvénients étant donné que c'est propre à chacun.
Certains diront que le salaire est un avantage, d'autre un inconvénient. Certains diront que les vacances c'est sympa, d'autres que toute manière, les vacances ne sont pas rémunérées etc...
Enfin chacun sa propre opinion là dessus.

Les études : On peut passer le Capes Et/ou l'agrégation.
Maintenant, pour passer le Capes, il faut un master enseignement ce qui fait pas mal d'étude.
Le nombre de poste en maths est relativement élevé. Le niveau n'est pas extrêmement élevé mais il faut fournir malgré tout une bonne dose de travail personnel.

Bon courage. De toute manière, on sait bien que t'aura ta deuxième année de Pharma !

[Jota Be]

Bonjour;

Je suis actuellement en PAES ( 1ère année de méd) à Toulouse et , étant doublante je dois penser à une éventuelle réorientation si je n'ai pas le concours. Ayant toujours aimé les maths , je pense aller en fac pour devenir prof de maths. Ma question est donc la suivante :
Quels sont les avantages et les inconvénients du metier de prof ? Comment se déroulent les études ?

Merci d'avance.

Salut noue !
Alors comme ça t'es sur Toulouse ! Maraîchers, Rangueil ou Purpan ?
En fait, je me trouve dans le même dilemme que toi, n'étant pas encore à l'université : j'aime beaucoup les maths mais je compte quand même aller en Médecine.
D'après ce qu'on m'a dit, tu n'as pas trop à craindre de rater ta deuxième année de PAES, puisqu'il y a de très bonnes chances que tu y arrives la deuxième fois plutôt qu'à la première si tu travailles très sérieusement. C'est statistiquement prouvé, et c'est assez logique aussi.
Sinon, prof de maths, pourquoi pas, faut aimer enseigner surtout =) Si tu aimes vraiment beaucoup les maths, il y a d'autres métiers plus passionnants.
Sinon c'est très intéressant, tu comptes choisir quelle branche de la médecine ?


Edit : je viens de regarder et c'est assez curieux, mais ceux qui ont fait spé maths ont plus de chances de réussir en PAES que les autres (spé SVT par exemple) !

[Sylviel]

Pour les spés de terminale : question de corrélation et non d'induction... De fait nombre des "meilleurs" élèves ont tendance à prendre spé math, ce qui fait que le niveau moyen des gens faisant spé math est meilleur que le niveau moyen des autre spé. Bien sûr prendre spé math ne t'aideras pas pour ta première année de médecine...

Sinon pour le métier de prof, suite a diverses discussions :
- c'est principalement de la pédagogie / gestion de classe, et non pas "faire des maths".
- Le salaire est en dessous de la moyenne pour un niveau d'étude équivalent.
- Il y a beaucoup plus de vacances que dans la plupart des métiers.
- La part de gestion de classe (chahut, bavardage, ...) est plus importante que ne le pense quasiment tout ceux qui se lance dans ce métier.

Pour les études je rejoints ce qui a été dit :
- une licence de math
- un master de math (si possible de math de l'enseignement)
- un concours (deux en fait : capes et agreg).

Au final c'est un beau métier, mais il faut vraiment avoir envie d'enseigner !

[sad13]

- c'est principalement de la pédagogie / gestion de classe, et non pas "faire des maths".
- Le salaire est en dessous de la moyenne pour un niveau d'étude équivalent.
- Il y a beaucoup plus de vacances que dans la plupart des métiers.
- La part de gestion de classe (chahut, bavardage, ...) est plus importante que ne le pense quasiment tout ceux qui se lance dans ce métier.

tout à fait d'accord, beaucoup craquent en voyant la réalité du métier

[Jota Be]

- c'est principalement de la pédagogie / gestion de classe, et non pas "faire des maths".
- Le salaire est en dessous de la moyenne pour un niveau d'étude équivalent.
- Il y a beaucoup plus de vacances que dans la plupart des métiers.
- La part de gestion de classe (chahut, bavardage, ...) est plus importante que ne le pense quasiment tout ceux qui se lance dans ce métier.

tout à fait d'accord, beaucoup craquent en voyant la réalité du métier

Rappelons que les vacances sont non rémunérées.

[Sylviel]

Rappelons que les vacances sont non rémunérées.

Question de point de vue... C'est comme cela que le salaire a été fixé au départ. Aujourd'hui lles profs touchent, et cotisent, un salaire tous les mois...

[Imod]

Question de point de vue... C'est comme cela que le salaire a été fixé au départ. Aujourd'hui lles profs touchent, et cotisent, un salaire tous les mois...

Oui et alors , le salaire et les cotisations sont simplement réparties sur l'année comme celà se fait dans tous les métiers fonctionnant sur le même principe .

Imod

[beagle]

Edit : je viens de regarder et c'est assez curieux, mais ceux qui ont fait spé maths ont plus de chances de réussir en PAES que les autres (spé SVT par exemple) !

Font spé maths des élèves qui ont des facilités de comprennette et de mémorisation.
On leur demande une charge de boulot qui oblige à une certaine rigueur d'organisation du boulot;
Tout ceci fait que les résultats sont ensuite meilleurs, alors que les matières sont sans rapport.

Maintenant rappelons le scandale du numerosus clausus.
Des élèves qui ont doublé la première année,
ce sont fait bouler de médecine,
sont aujourd'hui soignés à l'hopital principalement par des médecins étrangers,
sont soignés à la campagne par d'autres médeciins étrangers;
Un métier qui s'est féminisé et où les femmes veulent tout, le boulot , la vie de famille,
doit former plus de gens.
Une des raisons de l'abandon des jeunes des filières autrefois prestigieuses comme la chirurgie,
comme les métiers de médecin de campagne sont à comprendre dans la charge de travail.
Vrai qu'avec des copains aux 35 heures et en RTT, c'est difficile de "forcer" les gens à faire des horaires de fou.
parait que dire cela relève du populisme.Et bien tant mieux.
Virons les énarques et syndicalistes qui n'ont jamais bossé dans la vraie vie mais prennent les décisions foireuses comme le numérosus clausus de ces dernières années.

[mama1802]

Hello

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Certains diront que le salaire est un avantage, d'autre un inconvénient. Certains diront que les vacances c'est sympa, d'autres que toute manière, les vacances ne sont pas rémunérées etc...
Enfin chacun sa propre opinion là dessus.

Les études : On peut passer le Capes Et/ou l'agrégation.
Maintenant, pour passer le Capes, il faut un master enseignement ce qui fait pas mal d'étude.
Le nombre de poste en maths est relativement élevé. Le niveau n'est pas extrêmement élevé mais il faut fournir malgré tout une bonne dose de travail personnel.

Bon courage. De toute manière, on sait bien que t'aura ta deuxième année de Pharma !

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